What is the name for this paradigm?

[WLindsayWheeler]

In another forum I posted this:
I ran across this in Albert Pike's Freemasonry Morals and Dogmas. Mr. Pike writes:

"To illuminate the sphere on one side, is to project a cone of darkness on the other; and Error also is the shadow of Truth with which God illuminates the Soul". (pg 845, Chapter 32.)

There is a parallel of this in Isaiah 45.7 "I am he that prepared light, and formed darkness; who make peace, and create evil;..."

This is very true what Pike said, "Illuminate a sphere on one side and a cone of darkness is projected on the other side". This is so very true. There is opposite reactions--not equal but opposite nonetheless. This is in nature. In many things there are two things presented but are interrelated. The illumination and the shadow are connected. One can't have one without the other.

What is the technical term, philosophical term for this paradigm? I am having difficulty naming this. I know this is about Greek interpretation but I believe this is a part of Greek philosophy or at the least Pythogorean. This is part of the Natural Law and would in hence be part of the logos. What is this called? Is there a Greek name for this phenomena? Latin? Or could someone give a name for this.

[WLindsayWheeler]

I began this thread with Pike's philosophical principle but this principle reappears also in human psychology. Here is another aspect of this paradigm:

Jesus said, "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other." Matthew 6:19-21,24


Love and loyalty have "one object" as their focus. As one loves one object--its competitor has to recieve the opposite effect of animosity. Love and Hate go together. To love something also means that I hate something else. One can't love two women simultaneously, (not normally). One's affection must be presented to one person while another gets no affection. St. Paul alludes to this in the married man and the celibate; the married man is concerned with pleasing his wife and the celibate is concerned with pleasing God. While a man is pleasing his wife, leads him to not give fully to pleasing God.

The name for this is not "harmony" is it? Harmony or the Golden Mean mean something else, similar but not the same.

[WLindsayWheeler]

This paradigm of illumination/cone of darkness thing is a two part thing. And this two parts are not equal but one cause automatically creates an effect.

I am wondering if ratios are the same way/thing. Pythagoras studied ratios. They come in 2:4, 1:4, 2:3, so on and so forth. There is the Divine Proportion 1.6. Many things in nature are that way. Our arms and legs are in a proportion of 1.6. We have a forearm and the bicep. The forearm being longer than the bicep. With the leg, the calf is longer than the thigh. A ratio has a connection between its two parts. Is there a correlation between ratios and this paradigm of illumination/cone of darkness; the same type of system or just a coincidence?

[Chris Weimer]

Sorry, I have no idea off the top of my head. I'd have to dig a little deeper in philosophical works to find the answers to these...

[WLindsayWheeler]

On the other forum, it says this thread as over 700 views. Yet, let's say it is 500 views not repeated. I can't believe that out of 500 people, no one even responded with an answer. Only one responded with an attack but otherwise no response and it has been up over a month.

Thanks for your response and I wish you good luck.  I would like to name this because it is part and parcel of the Natural Law. Us humans can not abrogate it or fail to see it or recognize it.

Thanks, I hope you are successful.

[Roger Bell]

WLW:
I am not certain what you are looking for but a couple lines to pursue might be Heraclitus' work, or Hegel's Dialectic, or Yin and Yang. The "unity through dualism" may be helpful, also.
RAB

[Chris Weimer]

On the other forum, it says this thread as over 700 views. Yet, let's say it is 500 views not repeated. I can't believe that out of 500 people, no one even responded with an answer. Only one responded with an attack but otherwise no response and it has been up over a month.

Thanks for your response and I wish you good luck.  I would like to name this because it is part and parcel of the Natural Law. Us humans can not abrogate it or fail to see it or recognize it.

Thanks, I hope you are successful.

All places have their niche. Also, did you try Classics-L? Also, taking up Roger's suggestion of Heraclitus I found this:

http://uncommon-dissents.blogspot.com/2007/07/virtue-or-goodness-as-ultimate-in-life.html

[WLindsayWheeler]

I originally posted this at KOINONIA at Ellopos.net:
http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/koinonia/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=399

I read that article and I understand it but I think Harmony or the Golden mean is about a Duality that exist together that produce a third called a harmony.

There is Duality: hot+cold, wet+dry, Light+dark, Life+Death, Peace+War.
Contrast provides identity and knowledge.

Prof. Mueller on talking about the Doric Greeks writes:

"What the Dorians endeavored to obtain in a state was good order, or cosmos, the regular combination of different elements."

Now this is slightly different than "hot and cold", etc.

An example of this is the Family with a Male and a female. The family is a combination of different elements but they are related. Both are human, there is a natural hierarchy. The harmony would be "a family".

What Mr. Pike states in the cone of Darkness is that the Illumination produces the cone of darkness; this action is quite different from a harmony.  Something shows up, and something else quite opposite is produced. It's almost like Blowback. But obviously the cone of darkness can never equal or become equal to illumination.

It is somewhat analogous to "for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction"; that may be true in physics but the Cone of Darkness is not an "equal" reaction.

There is something curious in that whole thing of Mr. Pike. It is a Truth. It is an observable action in the physical world.

Maybe no one has coined a label for this paradigm. I posted that thread at Koinonia 24 Mar 2008. As of yet, no one has come up with anything. Maybe someone could coin a term for this phenomena (other than "The Cone of Darkness" {with reverberations and deep voice}).

[WLindsayWheeler]

This paradigm that Mr. Pike points out is apropo for the Isaiah verse. When God created good, the good produced evil.  The presence of evil in the world could not be helped. Good and evil are not equal. God did not produce evil.  God created good, and this in turn produced evil.

God knew this in the beginning that is why Jesus was planned in the beginning as well. God knew that by bringing good into existence, evil would be created. God could not help this. In order to prevent evil, God couldn't have produced the world in the first place. But God HAD to bring good into place just like Shakespeare said, "To be or not to be, that is the question". It really is for the basis of good is "to exist". To be 'good' it has to exist. God had to create the Good. By doing so, evil was produced. I purposely did not put "inadvertently" because God knew immediately that evil would be produced by Him making good.

The illumination is the good that God created by making the world; the cone of darkness is evil.

In my musings and observations on race, every race has a sense of "belonging" and tied to that is "volkenhass" or prejudice against another. This is where I also see Pike's paradigm. To have  a sense of belonging, necessarily entails, the opposite as well, volkenhass.

[David]

This paradigm that Mr. Pike points out is apropo for the Isaiah verse. When God created good, the good produced evil.  The presence of evil in the world could not be helped. Good and evil are not equal. God did not produce evil.  God created good, and this in turn produced evil.

No, that's not what the Isaiah 45:7 says. Peace is not the same as good, and a state of peace does not necessitate a state of evil.
In Hebrew mysticism good and evil are part of the fundamental structure of reality. A state of peace has no disposition towards either good or evil.